Mar
12
2007

"Africans" doing better than "blacks" in college


A study published in the American Journal of Education showed that over one-quarter of black college freshmen were immigrants from Africa, rather than native born – twice as many as in the general population. For Ivy League schools, the figure was 40%.

Diversity initiatives and race-based financial assistance, all designed to help black Americans, have ended up helping foreigners rather than the native-born – precisely because the programs are race-based.

Conservative writer James Taranto in the Wall Street Journal argues

“at least as measured by enrollment in elite universities, black immigrants and their children are succeeding in America far more, on average, than blacks whose families have been in the U.S. for generations--i.e., the descendants of slaves. This is a strong argument against the proposition that black underachievement in America is primarily the result of present-day racism.”

While many would argue against that claim, Taranto has found some unlikely allies. In promoting diversity in higher education, liberal author Eric Alterman feels affirmative action has outlived its usefulness, and has in fact become a political liability. He would rather see it tied to class, rather than race, saying, “I’m interested in helping poor people, not black people, not Chinese people, not American Indians, not anything.”

Do you agree? Is racism still a problem that needs to be addressed directly? Or is the real problem poverty, or lack of opportunity, or something more color-blind like that? Leave a comment.

Your Comments, Thoughts, Questions, Ideas

Anonymous's picture
Anonymous says:

I feel that the statistics show proof that we are still suffering from vicious effects of racism, and lack of opportunity and poverty for blacks are not color blind issues, but they are recoils of the the effects of slavery, segregation, and pure hearted evil.

posted on Thu, 03/15/2007 - 2:34pm
Gene's picture
Gene says:

I can see your second point -- American-born blacks suffer higher rates of poverty, and the lack of opportunity that goes with it. But can you explain how the statistics cited are evidence of racism? The study does not compare two different races, but rather two different groups within the same race: blacks born in Africa vs. blacks born in the US.

posted on Thu, 03/15/2007 - 4:56pm
Liza's picture
Liza says:

Maybe this study reveals the effects of internalized racism? All you have to do is watch the video that Art posted of the "doll experiment"--black children were asked to choose between a black doll and a white doll and explain their choice--to see that African Americans have absorbed the same racial messages that other Americans have...

posted on Tue, 03/20/2007 - 4:58pm
Gene's picture
Gene says:

Maybe I'm just not getting it, but I don't see how this is racism. The colleges aren't choosing whites over blacks or Asians over blacks or anything like that. Rather, they are admitting lots of blacks -- just choosing more foreign-born blacks than native blacks. That would be racism only if we consider African blacks and American blacks to be two different races.

Also, colleges -- especially Ivy League colleges -- are really big on diversity, with or without affirmative action. Hard to imagine them engaging in racism against any minority group.

posted on Tue, 03/20/2007 - 5:53pm
Anonymous's picture
Anonymous says:

A foreigner can come to this country and work hard and become something. It's not just foreigners from Africa, but anywhere. America is the land of opportunity, This is not the 1960's. Black America is held back by victim mentality. There are many black Americans who have worked hard and became something yet the majority want to blame everyone else for their state. You don't see foreigners doing that. It takes effort just as it does for the Mexican, the European, the southeast Asian etc.. It takes hard work, dedication.
Get over slavery, take personal responsibility for your life and make something of yourself instead of looking for someone else to do it for you.

posted on Tue, 10/14/2008 - 7:17pm
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Tashia says:

Excuse me!!! I do agree with you about some blacks blaming others for their problems, but getting over slavery does not help, slavery happened and it will remain, repressing it does not help the black community. If you ever get the chance go to a black community and see how much stuff children are exposed to. It's an ongoing cycle if a child grows up seeing nothing, but poverty and don't have a freedom from it, they will create the same mentality of their parents, yes you have those that are an exception, but if you hear their interviews there's always that one person that made a difference in their life to show and teach them there's something better than struggling. But don't you dare blame slavery, because majority of the time its whites who are still in the 19th century

posted on Mon, 12/07/2009 - 10:19pm
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Kenny says:

Excuse me too!!! Slavery isn't here to stay but in the mind of the captive. I came here as a refugee, got dumb in the ghetto without education.

I went to the same high school as other students of African, Asian and European roots. The some of the students with African roots born in the United States acted very discriminatory towards African born students and respected them not. They exhibited a superiority mentality in emptiness and arrogance. They refused to learn and dissuaded others from learning as well. They were rebellious in classrooms and disrespectful of teachers --- this is not the affect of slavery; this is the effects of poor parenting and lack of culture.

With all the hardship that I experienced, I worked hard and was kept on track with the help of my mother and brother. You have to try first to succeed and stop blaming generations past. The question is what are you doing to mitigate the risk from being held mentally captive in slavery? Are you working hard to take advantage of resources available to enhance your life? Work hard first then seek solutions to ameliorate core concerns.

I graduated high school, earned my undergraduate degree, graduate degree and pursuing specializations to start my own business. What else can I ask for from a government that care about its people. Not perfect but better than all the African governments combined.

Arise! Let the glory of the Lord visit you. You have to take the initiation with dedication to succeed.

posted on Thu, 07/19/2012 - 1:11pm
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laura says:

It's not because the programs are RACE-BASED, it's because there's no stipulation about being native-born. That was a false conclusion.

posted on Thu, 03/15/2007 - 6:32pm
Liza's picture
Liza says:

Here's an interesting article featuring economist Dalton Conley and published by the National Education Association.

It doesn't explain why African-born blacks are doing better in college than African Americans, but it does provide an intriguing theory about the "achievement gap" between black and white students. Conley thinks that racial differences in family assets explain differences in school performance. In his view, race and socio-economic status are inextricably intertwined.

posted on Wed, 03/21/2007 - 4:26pm
Anonymous's picture
Anonymous says:

I think it is a comnination of both. Racism is still a hugh part of why African Americans are not suceeding in education. However, being poor is not helping the situation either. If I were poor, not safe home to rest, no heatlhy food to eat. Education would be the last thing on my list. As it is with so many blacks, the jobs are there but they do not pay what you need to live. The double standards whites place on things like the same job would pay a white man more than a black one. That one alone is hugh. When will it stop? Perhaps never. When immigrants come to America, they are treated with respect and given the opportunities not questions asked. The Americans that have already been here are still struggling to live. In addition, immigrants, not all, come here with money and still get the assistance. In conclusion, but never resolved, continue to have affirmative action but at the same time screen the ones that claim to be poor and need of assistance .

posted on Fri, 04/13/2007 - 11:54am
Gene's picture
Gene says:

Much of what you say is dead on. But, it is illegal for a company to pay different people different salaries for the same work. It can be difficult to prove, but if found out the penalties can be quite severe.

Also, the statement that immigrants are treated with respect is certainly not universally true.

posted on Fri, 04/13/2007 - 6:24pm
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KCRatt_ says:

Hello I myself am african-american but just that both of my parents are nigerians. The truth is not racism but bad history. Blacks been through alot in 1960's and the 1980's when crack came to their neighborhoods it mess them up also the whites living in predominately black neighborhoods. Foreigners come to america with the mentallity to succeed and their children to become a somebody. So it has to really do with the conditions of families and culture. Also remember africans know their culture but blacks lost their original custom and made a culture for all black which shows ignorance to america.

posted on Fri, 07/13/2007 - 12:58am
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Funmi says:

I am an African born American. I do see that Africans do much better than African Americans in educaton, but any African can tell you that there is racism in this country. My mother is a math teacher and my father a physician, Africans do very well in math and science, while African Americans do not, but when you come from a country with 200 million black people and no significant other race there is nobody telling you that your not smart enough or sending subliminal messages through media and other outlets that you cant do math and science. If you dont do the math and science who will. I went through the American school system and the racism is there its just Africans process it differently. Racism is somthing foreign and something to be laughed at.

posted on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 1:46am
Anonymous's picture
Anonymous says:

African immigrants do not just show up to colleges and get excepted in to college. they apply just like any other students. the reason why they get in to colleges that African Americans can not get in to is because of their high academic standards. most Africans do not come in to this country rich. they simply take advantage of the opportunities that this great country offers us all. black Americans are psychologically handicap by years of subjugation. Africans come from majority black countries and they feel inferior to no one. as matter of fact they feel quiet the opposite. they do well in school because our families expect nothing less. our mothers and FATHERS, key word FATHERS, will kill us if we come on with a B in class. that is the difference between us and black Americans.

posted on Sat, 07/19/2008 - 8:51pm
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Carolyn says:

I believe that the family/immediate social environment priorities dictate if impoverished children succeed or not. It's not true that immigrants are given enough resources that they automatically get further ahead than people born into poverty here. They receive a very time limited amount of assistance including medical assistance, possibly social security benefits IF they qualify, and some free education (job training, English classes) although that has gotten increasingly more limited. These things are also available to African-Americans in poverty, and children born here have the advantage of English fluency. (Although you can certainly argue that African-American children grow up speaking a version of English that may impair their ability to land jobs, etc.)

In addition, the various immigrant communities can be very close knit and supportive of each other, pooling their resources to help each other succeed in education and business. Family and societal expectations help each individual child develop dreams (or not). Schools can only do so much, but may be all that a child has to provide another vision of the future than they may see at home.

Providing high quality education, mentoring experiences, job training (Hubert Humphrey job corps, for instance, an intensive program that basically provides parenting in terms of health, how to behave in a work place, etc, that high risk youth may not have had) are critical. Obviously, I'm a bleeding heart tax-and-spend liberal, but I do strongly believe that societal support of education, job training, and health for all helps at least minimize racial disparities.

posted on Mon, 04/16/2007 - 2:37pm
Anonymous's picture
Anonymous says:

as a college bound student it appears to me that affirmative action is outlived. i am a picture of whiteness, pale skin, blond hair, and blue eyes. that doesnt mean that my family is well off. my mom just went to semenary and my dad is a pastor. we are a family of five and because of my fathers income and my mothers schooling we dont have a lot of money. i dont want to pick on anyone but when i am driving around the cities i see a lot of people that fall into minority groups that are much better off than my family. my main point is that I DONT SEE WHY PEOPLE WHO HAVE MORE MONEY THAN MY FAMILY HAVE AN EASIER TIME GETTING INTO BETTER COLLEGES AND HAVE BETTER AND EXCLUSIVE SCHOLARSHIPS BASED ON THEIR RACE. when they can afford a new bmw every year and we have been driving a 15 year old (no joke) toyota van almost since i was born i dont see why then should get so much help getting a better education. i would like to be successful too.

posted on Sat, 04/21/2007 - 2:13pm
Gene's picture
Gene says:

Yahoo! News has an article on the issue," which includes this observations:

One legal expert explained the bump in black immigrants by saying that now, decades since the civil rights movement's peak, college diversity is aimed less at correcting American racial injustices and more at creating a variety of perspectives on campus.

A student from a foreign country would have a different perspective than an American-born student, of any color.

posted on Tue, 05/01/2007 - 3:45pm
Anonymous's picture
Anonymous says:

I think that economic class should become the bigger factor for scholarships rather than race. However, i believe that even if affirmative action was outlawed, the ivy league schools mentioned in the article would still recruit a lot of minority student who were foreign born. So, I don't think changing the rules would change much in that respect.

Beyond anything, if affirmative action is to be applied at all, I believe it should be applied much earlier. The achievement gap starts in the first years of elementary school... That is where we should focus first

posted on Fri, 05/04/2007 - 8:47pm
Anonymous's picture
Anonymous says:

To anonymous white guy or girl, I just want you to know that I am black and not all blacks that go to college and get into college are getting by because of special privileges. I for one paid my own way through college by working while attending school, and taking student loans. The majority of my friends also took loans and paid for college. Not because a black person seems to be succeeding ahead of your family means that affirmative action did anything for them. It just means they have ambition, want to achieve great things in life, and worked hard in school and in their profession of choice to be able to afford the big house and BMW.

posted on Wed, 05/09/2007 - 10:23am
Anonymous's picture
Anonymous says:

I think it needs to be noted that African-immigrants and foreign blacks DO NOT outnumber Native Blacks/American Blacks at "elite" colleges and universities. According to the study, African-immigrants, foreign blacks, and children of mixed parentage are disproportionally represented at "elite" colleges and universities.

In essence, while African-immigrants, foreign blacks and children of mixed parentage represent a certain percentage of the overall black population, their numbers at "elite" colleges and universities are disproportionate to (or greater than) their actual popluation.

Native Blacks are STILL a whopping 60% (or majority) of blacks that attended the top 28 selective colleges and universities or "elite" institutions - according to this one (with emphasis) study.

posted on Thu, 07/05/2007 - 5:17am
Anonymous's picture
Anonymous says:

“at least as measured by enrollment in elite universities, black immigrants and their children are succeeding in America far more, on average, than blacks whose families have been in the U.S. for generations--i.e., the descendants of slaves. This is a strong argument against the proposition that black underachievement in America is primarily the result of present-day racism.”

posted on Fri, 07/13/2007 - 1:07am
Anonymous's picture
Anonymous says:

We have black immigrants coming here from war torn countries and they have nothing compared to there african american counterpart yet we say things aren't fair. Unlike some of us there come here and take advantage of the education that is available to them. It is also embarrassing that we have a segment of our population that frounds at education. So the biggest difference is they are willing to find the american dream and don't worry about there color like some of us. Believe it or not black america has a very good middle class. As Bill Crosby says it's time we shutup and stop blaming the white man and making excuses for are failures but I am not saying we don't have racism to deal with but we have to fix ourselves and our problems first.

posted on Mon, 09/10/2007 - 11:42pm
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GNM says:

Most of the discourse of “racism” and “lack of opportunity” forgoes the legal restriction that some African immigrants face, which obviously African Americans don’t face. I doubt that poverty, though an obvious variable in the success of people, is the main factor and stubbornly argue against its universal appeal to pretty much account for the lack of success among poor people. The problem, has always been the individual and not the collective victimization that many people in the social sciences have to come to allude to as the reason why African Americans do not succeed. Case in point, I came to this country when I was 14 teen years old as an economic immigrant with my mother was diagnoised with AIDS. I graduates high school with such achievements as being the only person to pass “Advanced Placement Chemistry” as well as taking “Advanced Placement US Government,” which my high school did not even provide. I got into Boston University, with the hopes of pursuing a career in Medicine, but as an illegal immigrant I was denied an opportunity to fund my education through normal process. Determined not justify my failure over something so intangible, which would have been a coward way out, I went to a City College where I triple majored, out of frustration because I have a platonic interest for academia, and graduated with a 3.7. On top of that, one of majors was political science which I used to get myself a greencard and get my mother a greencard. I paid my way through-out college and now my mother works for American Express and I work for Goldman Sachs, yes the Investment firm. I started what I was doing with only 300 dollars in my account and in high school I never even had the money to buy a uniform, which my English teacher bought for me. Clearly, I was chronically poor, legally prohibited from the little opportunities that many would take for granted, and obviously had the cultural barriers. However, do you know what destroys these barriers: PERSONAL DRIVE!! It is the only variable that transcends ideology! Consequently, given my position, I always say that people are ethically expecting a “man without hands to feel sorry for a man who has hands, when they are both in a river drowning.” I have found that the rugged, Teddy Roosevelt, Milton Friedman, individualism should in all cases prevail over the collectivization of the problems. At the heart of the matter is the fact that each individual can either accept a position that they have been “ordained” in or they can throw in the cards and pick whole new hand!!!!! By virtue of experience, I would be a fool to sit down here and proclaim, like Dr. Martin Luther King, that Black people need to be given these opportunities; for God’s sake we are in a Global Economy were the Capitalism is King!!! Personal Drive ladies and Gentlemen is the Key…And my journey is honestly not yet over because at 21, I have every intention of becoming a Managing Director at my firm, it might take 20 years but By Zeus it shall be done because existential reality compels one to keep moving forward!!!

posted on Thu, 09/27/2007 - 8:35pm
Anonymous's picture
Anonymous says:

Why do we need to compare blacks with another group of blacks. Black is black.
O' chocolates. Blessed be the whole black nation.
blacks.... african or african....american.

We don't need to compare 30,000,000 blacks( abused by MOF greys for centuries) against some 300,000,000 greys who had everything for generations.

posted on Tue, 11/20/2007 - 12:05am
Anonymous's picture
Anonymous says:

Why are white people always so quick to point out that they don't see that racism is an issue. Have you ever locked your car door when you drove by Black people, or held your purse, or joked about "niggers" amongst yourselves? the answers are likely "yes", and this are just micro examples of what is going on. There is a hate that is still there and is strong as ever but have been concealed due to fear of repucussion or consequences for expressing those feelings.

posted on Fri, 11/23/2007 - 6:04pm
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Yodle says:

I agree that Africans on a whole tend to do better than American blacks. I am an American born black woman and I have seen many times how Africans come to the United States and the very first thing they do is go to school. They do it immediately, no matter how old they are. When I was in college I saw many Africans who were recent immigrants attending school with 18 to 21 year olds and they were well into their 40's.

Many of them have families back in Africa to support who have placed a lot of expectations on them. Also, you have to understand that only the creme of the crop come over here. There are many African American blacks living in Ghana but these too are considered usually the well established and most educated.

To say that "ALL Africans" are better or more intelligent that American blacks is FALSE. The best and brightest come over here again. I have studied Africa and you have a lot of thugs over there too.

Also, these Africans KNOW their culture. They have strong family units. They are not as easily influenced by hip hop and materialism. Their focus lies in the family and in education. The American media has done a very good job of sending subliminal messages out to blacks, especially black youth, that we are fundamentally flawed in judgement and mental capacity. They only put certain blacks on television who play sports or act or sing and you don't really see many black doctors and lawyers influencing our kids.

Have more of an objective view.... PLEASE!!

Plus, in Houston NIGERIANS account for only 2% of the population, but a whopping 28% of ALL BANK FRAUD. So they aren't ALL outstanding citizens.

I suggest you watch Chris Hanson's "TO CATCH A CON MAN" and see who is making up th overwelming number of national and international con artists. IT IS AFRICANS!!! And many of them are EDUCATED!!!

posted on Tue, 12/25/2007 - 2:58pm
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Chas Kele says:

True, a lot of Africans are con-men. A lot of African-Americans are criminals. What else is new? A lot all people are a lot of things. Interestingly, you don't see Africans trying to blame other people when they are arrested. Sounds like a generation is trying to undo the sweat and tears of previous generations, simple.

I'm from Ghana myself, and yes, we have lots of African-Americans in the country-they've been coming back since the '60s. But to say they are considered the most educated in the country is quite laughable.

Even before I came to the US, I heard from an African-American that one of them drops out of school every 52 seconds in the academic year. There would be a day of mourning in the country if such a thing was reported! In a country with SO many universities, with a lot of them being HBCUs, this is hard to understand. But don't bother "educating" me: what difference would it make? Use your urge to educate to help a brother/sister/child of yours who needs it and stop getting defensive on the internet where nobody really cares.

It will be hard. But don't tell me it is harder than what some of us go through back home. Don't even bother with anyone who says that all Africans are smarter than African-Americans. That's another laughable statement. You wouldn't catch the most illiterate person saying "all" anyone are better than "all" others. If you think about it, it is ridiculous because we have a range of people, just like everyone else.

This "phenomenon" is only surprising to people because of the image they have about us. If you think this is "a lot" wait a few years and see...the truth is that the most motivated are poorer, and are usually denied graduate school abroad because of financial problems. A lot more are also denied visas even when they have admission.

If anything, African-Americans should use our "progress" to see that they can do anything, no matter what the media tells them.

One thing about many Americans in general is that, instead of taking blame for their own shortcomings, they will always try and find some person to blame-even when it is in their self-interest to take it and use it to mature. No matter how old they are!! I am yet to see the poorest African, who is barely alive blame someone for their situation, EVEN WHEN IT IS OBVIOUSLY NOT THEIR FAULT. Do you think that we could not find people to blame for our situations? But the more important question is: do they care? NO. IF THEY DID, THEY WOULDN"T BE HARMING YOU IN THE FIRST PLACE!So, use your energy to advance yourself, and take your mind off your adversary.

You cannot do both at the same time.

Put differently: do you think your situation is harder than people in slavery times, who managed to still learn how to read and write at excellent levels? If they took your defensive stance, would you be where you are now?

Look at Oprah's kids in South Africa. Were they "elite?" In a few years, they and their sisters will be in the USA in full force-quite a few in Ivy-League schools at that point in time, we will see what excuse you will tell them.

Indeed, it was Oprah herself who said that lots of kids were more interested in sneakers and toys instead of textbooks, wasn't it?

Like someone who quoted the old proverb said: " It is hard for someone without arms to feel sorry for someone WITH arms when they are both drowning in a river"

I would add: "especially when you manage to swim with no arms"

'm actually sorry for being so harsh. But it is for your own good, defensive relative-of-mine-I would say the same thing to a younger African who was taking your stance. If I didn't care, I would tell you what your ears want to hear, but your heart knows is not good for you. I was personally in a popular magazine, pictured by sheer chance as a refugee in a magazine when I was little.I'm now 26 years, been in the US for 8 months, did a masters in 8 months while most people use 2 years!! The PhD won't know what hit it. Literally. I only say this to encourage any African-American who might not know that you are only limited by your imagination. I was hardly the smartest in the class, but I was among the most motivated.

As the saying goes: he who can't dance will always complain "the drum is bad"

How about learning to dance instead? It could do you a world of good.

posted on Sun, 01/27/2008 - 8:15pm
Anonymous's picture
Anonymous says:

Well put.

posted on Tue, 04/08/2008 - 5:12pm
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JARVIS says:

This article is a bunch of bull. That is like saying "Irish" is doing better than whites. Its al the same thing as far as I can tell.

posted on Thu, 04/24/2008 - 10:07am
Gene's picture
Gene says:

Well, actually, up until about World War II, Irish were considered different from "white." The different European nationalities were largely considered distinct. It was only when mass migration and integration made blacks more visible that the various European identities merged into "white." (The shrinking of ethnic neighborhoods and intermarriage between groups also helped blur the distinctions.)

In this article, "Africans" refers to people born and raised in Africa, who come to the United States as immigrants. "Blacks" refers to people of African ancestry born and raised in the United States, and who often are the descendants of slaves. Culturally these are two very different groups with very different backgrounds and live experiences.

Come to think of it, an Irish-American and a native Irishman would also have different cultural backgrounds, though the differences would probably not be as pronounced.

posted on Fri, 04/25/2008 - 11:54am
Anonymous's picture
Anonymous says:

Hi. even if I never been to America ,I understand very well why African-Americans are not doing as well as African-born blacks The problem is what I can call stereotypes which are the result of centuries of racism .Because of stereotypes most African Americans don't expect to do well especially in science and maths because they been told they are not as good as others.On the other hand the teachers themselves don't expect them to be the best
because of the white-black SAT gap ,IQ scores ,model minority theories,blah blah circulating in American media.But for African-born blacks and their children they believe they can do as well as whites if they work hard .I'm telling you this because myself I did high school in Africa before I went to China to do my university studies.When I was in Africa ,I was the best of my class from primary school till high school.Because of that I believed in myself and I really worked hard.Of course you can say that dumb or smart someone had to be the first of my class!!!After I came to study in China I was really very optimistic that I was going to get a better education than what I could get back home.First the Chinese education is not that good ,they just give theories but few practical skills.But the biggest obstacle was that I came to realize that Chinese are one of most stereotyping people in the world,they think that all black people are dumb so that that It's so annoying .And they really think the Asian are very smart people.They never say it directly to but you learn it through their questions ,reactions and especially when browsing through their websites.Studying in such environment is really tough .At the beginning you don't care and you tell yourself that with hard work you will be fine.But doing higher education you need more than reading your books ,you need to have the professors to help you, to interact with your classmates,...Yes they really like to interact you but not for a discussion about your studies but to play soccer or basketball.I was one of the most vocal students back home but here I have to think twice before asking a question because the answer always begins by"how come you don't understand even this...".And Chinese listen to the professor as if he was their pastor(Hey time for some stereotyping!!!)
After a few years you realize that you're not as ambitious as u used to be because there is such lack of trust surrounding you.not because you believe you're not smart enough but because you always ask yourself those useless questions as why people are so blind that they can't see you're as a good student like others.With time you begin to have some kind of confidence issues because of this academic isolation ,you can still get your degree but no way you can achieve your potential because of these stereotypes.
In my opinion, the problem in race relations in this world is RACIALISM as in"I don't
really hate black people ,I actually like them, wish they could do well but I can't do nothing about it ,and neither themselves can because they are less competent by nature".
That's why those Ivy league graduates don't land good jobs easily like their white counterparts ,because you can control your academic achievements more than you can control your career because the perceptions are very important when it comes to work environment.That's why in countries like France you have so many excellent African graduates but it's not so easy for them to land good jobs.
Here in Asia with the booming English teaching business there are many Americans
coming to teach English but blacks have tough time getting employed.Sometimes
they are told in all honesty that "I really can see that you're qualified but children and parents don't want black teachers!".In fact ,a Russian who speaks some broken English will get the job easier than his qualified black American ,never mind that they think that all blacks of this world can speak English .Because they think a white man has more to give to their kids than a black man.

posted on Thu, 05/01/2008 - 9:42am
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A Student from Angola, Africa says:

It depends on how you look at it; but, again the truth is Africans born in Africa are indeed very smart; me personally came to the U.S. at the end of 1998 solely to pursue my higher education; in1999 I began my advanced english course (for academic purposes) and in 2000 I completed the course.

In 2001 I was accepted by the University to pursue a Computer Science major graduated in 2004 with GPA above 3.0; ask anyone who graduated with CS degree will tell you is not an easy major it's tough.

I didn't stop there, in 2004 I began a new challenge to pursue an MBA-H.R., General Management degree and graduated in 2006; my GPA: 3.5

I have many job offers back home with multinational companies and most of them are Fortune 500 and I am happy that I will be home soon. The U.S. is a great country where anyone/anybody can succeed, the sky is the limit; is the land of opportunities but again, the opportunities will not come to you, you have to have a go getter attitude otherwise you will spend the rest of your life blaming the System or Uncle Sam.

Something else, while in the U.S. I also managed to learn a 3rd language: Spanish; Portuguese is my 1st and English is my 2nd.

posted on Fri, 11/13/2009 - 11:01pm
regg's picture
regg says:

Congrats for your success, you obviously earned it bit by bit. You are right, the sky is the limit but unfortunately for some bright young people the language is the limit. They may stand a change on getting higher education in a foreign country if they could handle the language. Most of these kids find an online English tutor to solve the problem while others still wait for the opportunities to knock in their doors...

posted on Mon, 08/16/2010 - 3:39am
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Hesi exam says:

Yes Ivy League graduates do not land good jobs as their white counterparts simply because you can control your academic performance more than you can control your career, because the perceptions are very important when it comes to work environment.That 's why in countries like France you have so many good African graduates, but it is not so easy for them to land good jobs.
Here in Asia with the booming business English teaching, many Americans
comes to learning English, but black people have hard time employed.Sometimes
They are told in all sincerity: "I can see that you are qualified, but children and parents do not want black teachers".

posted on Thu, 09/16/2010 - 1:51am

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